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arkasha
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#048 Wheels in Motion
Front (two cogs, touching each other)Back (part of the Horoscopes series) The Spider (April 11 - May 10) Please use this thread for discussion about this card. |
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My S2W2 solves: 49/86 |
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Ravenstorm
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Is it me? Surely two cogs of equal size must rotate at the same speed? | ||||
Gravity is a myth. The Earth sucks. |
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martynpie
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That's what I thought too: especially as it says they're the same size.
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But for an organge, maybe that's too complexicated, and we're missing something. |
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Woowoo! |
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Ravenstorm
Messages: 616 Offline |
That's where I'm stuck.
Spoiler: (highlight to read) Shouldn't they both rotate about at the same speed if they are connected gears. Unless, as you say Cog 1 is free spinning but then that would mean it could stay perfectly still as well. Confused. Yes I am. |
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Gravity is a myth. The Earth sucks. |
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trk
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Ravenstorm wrote: That's where I'm stuck. I figured that: Spoiler: (highlight to read) It depends what you are measuring the rotation relative to. Relative to each other, they will be the same angular velocity but in opposite directions. Relative to the viewer, as A moves over B it must rotate more than B as it travels. Consider the situation where B stays fixed and A moves over B. B doesn't rotate, but A certainly will. |
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S2W2 Solves My Moshi Monsters: Bena BenaKat |
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martynpie
Messages: 112 Offline |
When I get on my lunch break proper I'll have a crack based on:
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Woowoo! |
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martynpie
Messages: 112 Offline |
Cracked it
(My method above is too complex) |
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Woowoo! |
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gregorS
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Argh, this card is driving me crazy.
Spoiler: (highlight to read) I've tried cog 1 rotating about A at twice the speed of cog 2 rotating about B and cog 1 rotating about B at twice the speed of cog 2 rotating about B.
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martynpie
Messages: 112 Offline |
MAJOR SPOILER
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Woowoo! |
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Ravenstorm
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Still don't follow it. Would it not be the other way around? | ||||
Gravity is a myth. The Earth sucks. |
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volvox
Messages: 178 Offline |
The gear going around the other gear always got me. Here's how I think of the solution:
Spoiler: (highlight to read) You need to look at how much Gear A rotates not from the reference frame of the gear itself, but you looking at the whole contraption. If you look at one spot on Gear A as it moves around, you will see it rotate 360 degrees by the time it reaches the other side of Gear B. However, if you were just looking at it from Gear A's perspective, it would have only gone 180 degrees.
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Abzot, my MoshiMonster |
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martynpie
Messages: 112 Offline |
The way I thought of it:
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Woowoo! |
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trk
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Here's the way I thought about it and my solution:
Spoiler: (highlight to read) First just consider B doesn't rotate and A just moves over to the other side of B. This means that A does a 360 degree cw rotation.
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S2W2 Solves My Moshi Monsters: Bena BenaKat |
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