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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Please use this thread for discussion about this card.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:58:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm confident that I have a fool-proof answer but it tells me I'm incorrect... Anyone else had this problem?

MarietFemme]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>MarietFemme wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>I'm confident that I have a fool-proof answer but it tells me I'm incorrect... Anyone else had this problem?</blockquote>You might be a victim of the bugs having their party on the site at the moment. Check on the <a href="http://perplexcity.com/jforum/posts/list/2.page" target="_new">Bug report thread</a> to see if yours has been listed. In the meantime, I'd suggest you use Firefox to browse the site as it appears to be much less prone to bugging.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks Thomas but I can't find anything in the bugs forum and I'm already using Firefox...

I'll try again tomorrow in the hope that it's fixed.

Anyone managed to get a solution accepted yet?]]></description>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yes I got an answer accepted.  (3rd time lucky  lol).

I had to edit my first attempt twice.  It's just a case of making sure you remove ALL the unnecessary moves!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 Mar 2007 01:19:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re: #103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, the answer is actualy quite simple. It's getting the site to except it that is the trouble...

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			<p>I found that I had to 'miss out' the last answer I had put in, to get it excepted as correct. In total there are '5' moves needed to get a correct solution.</p>
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It reminds me of #133 (Don't play with your food) from the last set. Everyone had the right answer, but it was realy difficult to get it worded corectly.

Keep trying :)]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ That explains it,

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			<p>I'd thought I'd need both "time" steps or neither! Not just the first one. </p>
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Thanks!

MarietFemme]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:30:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm still not sure I 100% understand this. If he doesn't have a watch how can he "wait xxx minutes"?]]></description>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Phew! finally got this accepted.

I understand the comparison with the S1 card #133 - Don't Play With Your Food.
However, frustrating as it was, I don't think this card is quite as bad. 

The problem with both cards is that there are a number of different ways of wording the solution which are all equally valid, but only one is accepted.

What really annoyed about "Don't Play With Your Food" was that the accepted answer wasn't actually the best way of performing the trick!
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:11:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>anansi wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>I'm still not sure I 100% understand this. If he doesn't have a watch how can he "wait xxx minutes"?</blockquote>

I had trouble with this to start with!

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			<p>The only logic that works is that if a fuse takes 40 minutes to burn completely then it will take 20 minutes to burn halfway. However the card states that neither fuse burns at a constant rate so it is impossible to deduce this!</p>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm stumped on this one, see from above there are five steps in total. However are any of the wait xx minutes options used ? thanks.]]></description>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>anansi wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>I'm still not sure I 100% understand this. If he doesn't have a watch how can he "wait xxx minutes"?</blockquote>
Yeah, it makes it look like he's using some external source to measure time. It should really say "Wait until the fuse burns out", that would be clearer.

<p><cite>robspot wrote:</cite></p>
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			<p>The only logic that works is that if a fuse takes 40 minutes to burn completely then it will take 20 minutes to burn halfway. However the card states that neither fuse burns at a constant rate so it is impossible to deduce this!</p>
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Quite a big hint:
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			<p>Um, no, it's not impossible. The only thing you need to know is that lighting the fuse at both ends will halve the TIME the fuse takes to burn. At no point do you need to infer a constant rate of burning along the length of the fuse.</p>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 
Quite a big hint:
Thank you very much. It was and I really should have  thought of it myself.
Oh well 8) ]]></description>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The hint still wasn't big enough for me :(]]></description>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>DavidHolliss wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>The hint still wasn't big enough for me :(</blockquote>

Really, really big hint

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			<p>If you light the first fuse at both ends... and the second at one end ....
and yes you do need one of the time waits</p>
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Hope it helps :D  :D ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:17:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Just solved it, thanks for the tips.]]></description>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Feel like I'm going to kick myself when I finally get this...
I understand the thinking behind
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			<p>lighting both ends of a fuse and that halving the time that it takes it to burn out completely</p>
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but I fail to see how the guy can wait for any amount of time since he doesn't have a watch.
Obviously I am missing something, since people have solved it...]]></description>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I know where your coming from; hint

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			<p>he doesn't need a watch to measure time, the burning time tells him what he needs to know</p>
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post if your still stuck]]></description>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Got it! I had the first part right, but I hadn't thought through what that gave you. Very happy now :)]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ OK, I've got the first half (20 minutes) but how on earth do you work out the last 10 minutes......

Help!]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I enjoy these puzzles a lot, but it's frustrating when the "correct" answer is an arbitrary choice between multiple correct answers. The nice folks at Mind Candy should invest in a little more answer parsing code.]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>jdc2007 wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>OK, I've got the first half (20 minutes) but how on earth do you work out the last 10 minutes......

Help!</blockquote>
Check through the page one posts. There is hopefully enough information between them.
failing that
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			<p>check the answer options</p>
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I found it helped.
 :D ]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm frustrated with this because I'm 99% sure I have it right, but I can't figure out how to enter it so the answer is accepted.  Does it make a difference...
 
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			<p>what order I put the fuses?  Like for the one that will burn out first, I have that as the "first" fuse in my answer input... I can't figure out how else to word this answer to make it work!</p>
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				<title>#103 - Bush Bakery (green dice)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ it seems its been months since anyone was solving these cards but i guess i'm a late starter, oh well it shall be fresh in my head when the next wave comes out, if indeed it does.

Just solved this, it's one of those cards that makes you think, "why did i not see that?"  

Thanks for the hints tho, they helped a lot!]]></description>
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