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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Please use this thread for discussion about this card.]]></description>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I really like this card, it took me a while to figure it out though.]]></description>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ does that mean you can give those of us who are clueless a hint? :)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't want to give it away to those who haven't solved this card, <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p> if you turn it sideways, the lines represent something. </p>
		</div> You can PM me for a hint :D]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:44:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The amount of time this card took me is embarassing. But yes:
<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>Turn the card on its side, and suddenly all should become clear. Once you see it, you can't un-see it, it's that kind of thing.</p>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well, I'm still working on the 'seeing it' bit :/]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:16:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm with rennard on this one. i even used paint to isolate the lines from the rest of the card and all I'm seeing is..... lines on the screen/card.

I've done all the things I used to have to do to get those magic eye images to work, the ones where you had to let your eyes unfocus. Anyway I'm still getting bupkis.

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p> the first letter or something maybe? please?</p>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ A slight hint

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>All of the letters are made up of straight horizontal and vertical lines, i.e. no curves and it makes a difference which side you turn it on</p>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>robspot wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>A slight hint

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>All of the letters are made up of straight horizontal and vertical lines, i.e. no curves and it makes a difference which side you turn it on</p>
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Even a tiny hint (please) as to which side. I know its a fifty fifty chance but it doesn't seem to matter - I can see diddly.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm the same. I thought I had the answer but it was wrong and now I can't "see" anything else.

Is it anything to do with the film?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p> hold the card so that the three red lines at the top of the card are to the right</p>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>fretty wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote><p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p> hold the card so that the three red lines at the top of the card are to the right</p>
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Thanks for the hint. I had thought that might be the case. Unfortunately I'm still none the wiser.
first letter might be

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>w or l or j or????</p>
		</div> :x ]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hope this helps you to see it clearer...

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>Try thinking of light and shade... like a red spot light!</p>
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I liked this one!   :) ]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>Angie904 wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>Hope this helps you to see it clearer...

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>Try thinking of light and shade... like a red spot light!</p>
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I liked this one!   :) </blockquote>

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>Is this anything like card 3 - am i looking for the spaces in between the lines?</p>
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:evil:  AAAARRRRGH!!!]]></description>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thank you Angie! Though I don't think I share your appreciation :)

Ravenstorm <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>yes, your looking for the shape that would exist if a full light was shown on a raised surface.</p>
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Further to Angie's spoiler - <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>if the light was catching on the same edges it was shining on, the light is shining from the right.</p>
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Not sure if that will help, in either case but I finally (!!!!) solved this card thanks to Angie and that was how I approached getting the answer.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ravenstorm <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>yes, your looking for the shape that would exist if a full light was shown on a raised surface.</p>
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Further to Angie's spoiler - <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>if the light was catching on the same edges it was shining on, the light is shining from the right.</p>
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Not sure if that will help, in either case but I finally (!!!!) solved this card thanks to Angie and that was how I approached getting the answer.</blockquote>

Thank you, Danke, merci. I love you both and want to have your babies. (Just kidding)
but not about the thanks. Just solved it - oh the satisfaction. They're diabolical these mind candy people.  :)  :-)  :D   :mrgreen: ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You're welcome and yes they are but we keep coming back for more anyway.... :)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Masochists the lot of us.

I finally got it too, thanks to everyone. Even the title makes sense now.

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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>i tilted the card and the answer was staring at me</p>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This card has a lot of *wrong* solutions to it... it just so happens that arithmetic is also being performed on this card to make 21-20=1.  I thought to myself "what does red have to do with that at all?"  Now with the correct solution, I sorely realize red has nothing to do with any of it other than being a "red herring."  I'm slightly bitter at this card.]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I disagree.

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>Without the thin red lines you wouldn't have the answer. I mean, if you took the thin red lines away from the average person you would also take away their ****</p>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I see your disagree and raise you another disagree. =)
<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>Since when have veins and arteries ever been referred to as thin red lines?  Or thin? or red?  well, maybe red.  But the point is that is not the first thing I think of when I hear "Thin Red Line."  There are many things that make *insert answer* possible, why narrow in on one of them and make it sound like a WW2 movie?</p>
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Plus, I'm still in shock that the answer isn't "arithmetic" or "subtraction."]]></description>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Obviously I can't give hints about my own card. Even if I could, I wouldn't because it's been done.

But about some of the things people have said.

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>The thin red lines is a nice touch by mind candy, but it's not the original title that I proposed. (Mine was 'What's the meaning of this?'). 

Now, yes, you can make those red lines mean lots of things if you want it to. Trust me, I've heard all SORTS of answers. Any pattern can be given multiple meanings if you look hard enough for them.

But none of that matters, because in my mind, one mark of a GOOD puzzle is one where, when you get the answer, you know that it MUST be right. If there's room for doubt, then there's a certain inelegance to the puzzle  (I am reminded of a certain puzzle to do with a 'lexical game' in season 1).
</p>
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Glad folks are having fun with this one.


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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Oh, it's a fine puzzle, but I need to show everyone the pattern that I was seeing... ya know, prove I'm not crazy.

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p><p><b>Code:</b></p>
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_ _ _                                            
 _ _   equates to 21 in binary &#40;imagine as 10101&#41;
                                                 
                                                 
_ _                                              
 _ __  equates to 20 in binary &#40;imagine as 10100&#41;
                                                 
                                                 
                             3                   
                            -1                   
_____  equates to = &#40;as in  -- &#41;                 
                             2                   
                                                 
    _                                            
____   equates to 1 in binary &#40;imagine as 00001&#41; 
                                                 
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It's just weird how the real answer makes for good math when looked at this way.  One crazy coincidence even.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ See now I didn't see any of these things. After staring at it for far too long I started to think <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>the shape was the UK without Ireland. It's kinda reminiscent and the red lines could have had something to do with trains/transit lanes. </p>
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It could also have been called <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>42 :)</p>
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I feel a bit ambivalent about this card. It's worthy of MC themselves :)]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>Amplizine wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>Oh, it's a fine puzzle, but I need to show everyone the pattern that I was seeing... ya know, prove I'm not crazy.</blockquote>

No, didn't work. You're definitely crazy  :lol: ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well as long as I'm not imagining it then I'm happy.  I'd hate to be delusional and be the only one who realizes it. =)]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This card is really annoying me now. I can see what I'm supposed to see but I have no idea what the answer is! I've tried (possible hints follow):

<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>LFE
L F E
Low-Frequency Effects
Low Frequency Emitter</p>
		</div>

But none are right. Please someone point me on the right track: I'm losing my mind!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Here's the final definitive clue/hint:
<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>
The first positive non-Fibonacci
is also the length of your answer
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Gah! How could I be so stupid  :shock: 

I've locked myself out of the card for the day now that I finally have the answer! Thanks for the help  :wink: ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Rotex you are on the right lines, you're answer isn;t the correct length.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the hints guys, I got there in the end once I knew which way to orientate the card. Still, I think I should have gotten this sooner on my own, but I just couldn't see anything! So thanks for the help! :)]]></description>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Grrr...
I sat and looked at this card for AGES and couldn't get it - gave it to my husband and asked if he could see anything - he promptly says "you mean 
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			<p> the word 'life'?</p>
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If everything in this world could be that easy eh??

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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for all the hints, this card was driving me bonkers, i just could not see it at all, and now i see it every time i look at it! bah.]]></description>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I was so frustrated with myself for being so slow with this card that I entered in the answer as opposed to the 12 digit entry code to access the card's page itself.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>It helped me to tilt the card almost to the point you cant see the card.  Look at it from the top down</p>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>psychobabe wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>Grrr...
I sat and looked at this card for AGES and couldn't get it - gave it to my husband and asked if he could see anything - he promptly says "you mean 
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			<p> the word 'life'?</p>
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If everything in this world could be that easy eh??

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Thank you so much - I was going crazy - I kept staring and staring and I just couldn't see anything... Now it is staring at me obviously :)

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			<p>I wasn't thinking three-dimensionally enough</p>
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Spoilered for what it's worth :)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry to the people that needed my help. My computer has been acting crazy so I couldn't get online without it shutting off on me. ]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I found that if I rotated the card 90 degrees and had the input code nearest to me and then angled the card so that the blue pattern that was origanaly at the bottom of the card, now furthest away from the eye the word just sprang to me.]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I managed to see the answer by re-drawing the lines on a piece of paper but with them horizontally closer together (with the card at 90 degrees).

At last..............]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>mindcandy wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>Please use this thread for discussion about this card.</blockquote> I think the answer is

[spoiler]airport :mrgreen: <span style="color:blue"> </span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><cite>psychobabe wrote:</cite></p>
		<blockquote>Grrr...
I sat and looked at this card for AGES and couldn't get it - gave it to my husband and asked if he could see anything - he promptly says "you mean 
<p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p> the word 'life'?</p>
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If everything in this world could be that easy eh??

</blockquote>

This is just frustrating.  I hate puzzles like this.  

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			<p>Life should not be the answer.  There is nothing that says we should add an extra letter, and LFE in no way "represents" life.  Neither do a series of broken red lines.  

I hate puzzles that end like this.  With a little more work (adding the I) it would have been just fine.  It's just sloppy.</p>
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				<description><![CDATA[ irwando: Look again, it's there. Remember that (total spoiler):
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			<p>There is no red line on the "back" (left hand) side of a letter. So the I has only a single up-and-down line.</p>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ My aplogogies then, yes, it's there.

Sorry, just after several other "guess what the author was thinking" puzzles, it just gets frustrating.  I hate puzzles like that.]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ For an age I couldn't see the answer. But I had an idea of the sort of thing I was looking for.

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			<p>In the end, I took it to the window where there was a lot more light, and tilted the card almost to the point at which you can no longer see the front, and there is was, clear as day.</p>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I can't believe I couldn't get this... so simple once you see it! 

Thanks all you helpful people for spoilers!! :mrgreen:]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I could just not see it, went onto this forum for help, and while the webpage was loading, the answer struck me. Its so obvious. NOW. :x Evil Mind Candy]]></description>
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				<title>Re: #131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I got it! I went back to the card with fresh eyes after trying desperately to make it fitmy anwser ( bad science I know!)but I almost locked myself out trying <p><b>Spoiler:</b> (highlight to read)</p>
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			<p>life  line/ life lines</p>
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				<title>#131 - The Thin Red Lines (blue suits)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but this card is very similar to Road to Nowhere. Both of these cards were so easy to me but I guess that's just how I see things. My girlfriend took ages on Road to Nowhere but once she got it, she couldn't see anything else. This one however, she can't even see it even though she knows the answer!

Funny how the mind works!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Someone please help me ... i am newbie !!!  :D 





Ashely

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